The illustration depicts a teenage Dr. Suldovsky sitting across her pastor, in his office. Her attention is not with her pastor but with someone behind her. An older version of herself stands behind her lifting the pastor’s office to reveal a world of science, depicted with various graphs and charts.

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This project highlights stories of significant transformation in the lives of people in the state of Oregon.
 

Erik DeVore speaks with Dr. Brianne Suldovsky, who grew up in rural Northern Idaho from a fundamentalist Christian background. After reading a philosophy novel and meeting with her pastor in her junior year of high school, she underwent a pivotal shift — from denying scientific topics like evolution and climate change to dedicating her life to science communication.

The making of a science communicator:

A crisis of faith, a new perspective

by | Feb 28, 2025

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by Erik DeVore | Next Generation Radio | Oregon Public Broadcasting | February 2025

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Dr. Brianne Suldovsky: I’m fairly certain in my high school yearbook, it says that I was also known as “Jesus Girl.” So it was like my identity, I was in it, and I was ready to tell anyone who would listen about it.

My name is Brianne Suldovsky. I am an associate professor of science communication at Portland State University in Portland, Oregon.

I grew up in rural Northern Idaho. It’s right by the Canadian border, so the very tip top of the state. It’s very rural, very conservative, fairly religious. And I grew up as a non-denominational Christian. 

The version of christianity I grew up in was very literal interpretation of the Bible. 

You know, I was taught that fossils were planted by Satan to confuse Christians about the age of the earth, that climate change couldn’t possibly be human caused. The idea that humans could negatively impact the earth on a global scale is human arrogance and hubris. The Bible is the end all, be all of truth about the world and anything that contradicts that is, like, inherently satanic at worst, or just kind of tempting you to lead you astray at best. 

Going into high school my freshman year, my Sunday school teacher was very aware that I was the only one that was going to go to public school that year and he was very concerned.

He said, you’re going to learn things in science class that contradict your faith and just know that those are tests, and it’s your job to overcome those tests. 

And so I went into high school with that mindset, like, okay, my faith is going to be challenged and I have to defend it. 

I think it was my junior year or so of high school, and we were assigned to read a book called Sophie’s World. It tells the story of a young girl as she’s introduced to Western philosophy. 

Philosophy runs by someone proposing an idea or a concept and then a bunch of people attacking and challenging it.

I found that this approach to trying to understand the world, I mean, on one hand, refreshing because I had never been taught that before. But on the other hand, totally overwhelming, because in Christianity, if you are doubting, that is a sign that Satan is in your head.

So I decided to turn to the only person that I thought could help me, which was my church pastor.

I had Sophie’s World in one hand and I had the Bible in the other. I had sticky notes sticking out of each one. I had a list of questions. I was ready.

I asked him how we could be certain about the nature of reality and the existence of the Christian God.

Like, how am I supposed to now believe in Christianity when I feel like all these other ideas are better? 

And I just remember getting unsatisfactory answer after unsatisfactory answer. He said, “At the end of the day, you just have to have faith that the Bible is correct. You just have to believe it.” And ironically enough, it was his assertion that I just had to have faith that I think sealed my fate.

And so I knew, in that moment, I was going to lose my religion.

I really don’t want my story to be interpreted as if I think that there is no harmony between religion and science because I don’t believe that. I think that science and religion can absolutely coexist. I do not think that they are mutually exclusive.

I decided to become a researcher and study how we can use philosophy to better understand people’s perspectives, and especially understand people who aren’t aligned with science and what their worldview is, and then how can we use that to more effectively kind of manage the relationship between science and society.

Growing up in an area that is often conservative, deeply religious and surrounded by nature, she was taught that the Bible was the absolute truth. In public school, she argued with her science teacher, Mr. K., about carbon dating, a scientific method used to determine the age of organic materials. 

During her freshman year of high school, her Sunday school teacher stepped aside and warned her about the “lies” she would encounter at public school and feared she might stray from God. 

“And so I went into high school with that mindset, like, okay, my faith is going to be challenged, and I have to defend it,” she says.

Dr. Brianne Suldovsky was raised in rural remote Northern Idaho, near the Canadian border with a fundamentalist Christian upbringing. Today, Suldovsky is an associate professor of science communication at Portland State University, a field where she studies the relationship between science and society. 

I grew up thinking that the earth was six thousand years old and that fossils were planted by Satan to confuse Christians about the age of the earth,” Suldovsky says.

A woman with clear glasses, blonde hair, and a blue coat stands in a library aisle dense with colorful books, framed by towering bookshelves, after a stroll through the rain-soaked campus.

Dr. Brianne Suldovsky stands in the aisle of Branford Price Miller Library, framed by towering bookshelves, after a stroll through the rain-soaked campus on Monday, Feb. 24, 2025. “I love school. I’ve always loved school. I love getting assignments. I love worksheets. I love homework. I love learning.”

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Cracks in her faith started to erupt in her junior year, when she was assigned to read Sophie’s World. The novel by Norwegian author Jostein Gaarder introduces readers to Western philosophy through the story of a young girl. While reading, Suldovsky had a profound realization — there was much more to reality than what was covered in the Bible. 

“It was world shattering,” Suldovsky says. “It just swept me off my feet in a way that was so destabilizing and so scary, but so undeniable that I knew I had to grapple with it.”

Seeking guidance, she met with a pastor she deeply trusted, spending over an hour discussing a list of questions with two books in her hands: the Bible and Sophie’s World. She left that meeting unsatisfied. 

“Toward the end, I could tell he was getting frustrated,” Suldovsky says. “He said, ‘At the end of the day, you just have to have faith that the Bible is correct. You just have to believe it.’ And ironically enough, it was his assertion that I just had to have faith that I think sealed my fate. Faith wasn’t enough anymore.”

A woman’s hands hold an open novel, there are yellow sticky notes popping out of its pages.

Suldovsky holds her copy of Sophie’s World, which acquaints readers to Western philosophy through the story of a young girl. It was the exact kind of text her Sunday school teacher warned her about. “My Sunday school teacher was aware that I was the only one that was going to go to public school that year,” she says. “And he was very concerned because secular education is going to lead you away from God.”

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Tight shot of the front cover of Sophie’s World. A woman's hands hold the novel tightly with her ring just out of focus.

Suldovsky holds Sophie’s World. It’s one of her favorites because author Jostein Gaarder makes complex ideas accessible through the eyes of Sophie, sparking curiosity and reflection on life’s biggest questions.

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It just swept me off my feet in a way that was so destabilizing and so scary, but so undeniable that I knew I had to grapple with it.

Years later, while working on her Doctorate of Philosophy, she went back to her hometown and ran into Mr. K. in the milk aisle of a local grocery store. This moment allowed her to reflect on her religious upbringing. She apologized to him and told him her fundamental view of the world had changed. Expressing how she is now pursuing a degree in science communication, she expected him to be shocked. Instead, he wasn’t surprised at all.

He looked perplexed and he said, ‘Why would that shock me? You were always really smart,’” Suldovsky says.

A young blonde-haired child stands with hands to her side, wearing a floral skirt and black vest. She’s a kid with a big smile and a big heart.

Suldovsky grew up in the early ’90s in a fundamentalist Christian community in rural Northern Idaho. She was one of the only kids in her community to attend public school, and was often referred to at school as “Jesus Girl.”

COURTESY OF DR. BRIANNE SULDOVSKY

Dr. Brianne Suldovsky at 8 or 9 years old (center), has blonde hair and wears a blue Tweety Bird bathing suit as she’s about to be dipped into a river surrounded by trees in rural Northern Idaho.

Suldovsky (center), at about 8 or 9 years old, is baptized in a river, surrounded by trees, in rural Northern Idaho. In Christianity, baptism is a rite of admission that symbolizes a person’s acceptance into the Christian community. 

COURTESY OF DR. BRIANNE SULDOVSKY

A woman smiles happily and points to her stepfather's head displaying the Washington State University Cougars logo on his bald head. She wears her graduation regalia for her 2012 graduation.

Suldovsky graduates from Washington State University. Her stepfather, Garry, proudly displays the Cougars logo. She received her Master of Arts in Communication in 2012.                                 

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When she is not teaching, writing emails, or handling her day-to-day responsibilities, Suldovsky conducts social science research using public opinion surveys. She examines individuals’ views and knowledge about controversial scientific topics, including genetically modified (GM) foods, extreme heat and climate change, forensic science and even astrobiology and the search for extraterrestrial life.

While her goal is not to popularize or disseminate science, she seeks to translate scientific data for non-experts while also striving to understand her audience — everyone from the general public to scientists. 

In other words, she examines how climate skeptics, for example, perceive the philosophy of science. 

“We think if we just shove more climate science at people, for example, they’re suddenly going to believe in climate change,” Suldovsky says. “And I think what we should be doing is engaging people with more philosophy because we need to get down to the fundamentals of how we’re viewing the world and how we differ.”

A woman sits at a desk in her office, looking at a computer in a warmly lit room, working hard answering some emails.

Suldovsky sits in her office at Portland State University on Monday, Feb. 24, 2025. As a science communicator, she teaches and conducts social science research by mostly analyzing public opinion survey data, where she studies the relationship between science and society.

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A view from above a glistening, rainy pathway leading toward a columned building, with trees from the Park Blocks in between, which sits at the end of the path with two small silhouettes in the distance.

A drizzly day at Portland State University’s Park Blocks on Monday, Feb. 24, 2025, seen from the skybridge between Fariborz Maseeh Hall and Smith Memorial Student Union.

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Her journey made her recognize that people are more than just statistics or ideologies; they are individuals who have different lived experiences and shared memories, and each one has a unique story to tell. We are all human beings who may view the world differently, whether about philosophy, science or religion. It does not mean someone is unintelligent or stupid.

She comes to the communication science field with a fresh eye. Having empathy for individuals who may disagree with science makes her uniquely equipped to bridge a divide.

“I think the important thing to note, though, is that more science wasn’t going change my worldview, right? I had to have a change,” Suldovsky says, “like a philosophical change in the way I saw the world in order for science to get through.”

A woman stands and gazes out the window, which features a view of the streets of Downtown Portland below. She’s clutching a copy of Sophie's World with her hands crossed.

Suldovsky gazes out a window at the busy city from the fourth floor of a campus building at Portland State University on Monday, Feb. 24, 2025. She holds her copy of Sophie’s World by Norwegian author Jostein Gaarder, which she said enlightened her toward a new way of thinking about the world from a philosophical view.

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